Moshiach and Geulah

Devorah wrote:Where did he see him?

Isaac wrote:There is a rosh yeshiva in Eretz Yisrael who has seen the Rebbe. From a very esteemed family. I spoke with him once.

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Bound to be controversial

http://seeingtherebbe.wordpress.com/

A not so frum friend of mine told me last night about a dream that his catholic sister in law had. A few days ago he took her to the Ohel. When they were leaving she asked him if the Rebbe had a sense of humor. When he asked why, she responded that about 7 or eight years ago, (actually it was a few days after gimmel tammuz), she had a dream that she was at a huge funeral, and there was no room to move. Then all of a sudden, the Rabbi who had just passed away, lifted off the cover covering him, and smiled at her and said "I'm not really dead, it's just a procces these people need to go through". She never knew who that rabbi was untill she came to the ohel a few days ago, and saw a picture of the Rebbe! That's why she's asking if the Rebbe had a sense of humor.

There is a rosh yeshiva in Eretz Yisrael who has seen the Rebbe. From a very esteemed family. I spoke with him once.

yehuda wrote:Isaac wrote:

There is a rosh yeshiva in Eretz Yisrael who has seen the Rebbe. From a very esteemed family. I spoke with him once.

With all due respect to him, is he hallucinating Are you all hallucinating ?

The Previous Rebbe writes:

There was a chassid [of an earlier generation] called R. Yaakov Leib (the father of R. Zvi Hirsch of Yanovitch), who was one of the first close disciples of the Alter Rebbe. The Mitteler Rebbe related to him with especial warmth, and told him of two visions that he had experienced:

1. A teaching that he heard from the Baal Shem Tov -- when awake, not dreaming -- in the study of his father, the Alter Rebbe, in Liozna, in the year 5553 (1793). The teaching expounded the verse, yordei hayam ba'aniyos -- "Those who go down to the sea in ships."

2. On Yud-Tes Kislev, 5559 (1798), the actual day of the Alter Rebbe's liberation, during Minchah (at which the aged R. Meshullam Yaakov of Tchashnik led the prayers), the Mitteler Rebbe saw the Maggid of Mezritch [who had passed away years before], who told him: "Your father, the Nasi, now left prison. He is undergoing anguish, but will soon be free from that as well."

http://www.sichosinenglish.org/books/li ... m-4/05.htm

When the Rebbe Rashab heard that the Baal Shem Tov and the Maggid visited the Alter Rebbe in his prison cell, he asked if there was room enough for three people in the tiny compartment. Why? Because the Baal Shem Tov and the Maggid could have revealed themselves in only the spiritual sense, but they also could have appeared in physical bodies, if that’s what they chose to do.

When the Rebbeim use words like "dreams" or "visions," they aren’t talking about hallucinations, G-d forbid. Rather, they are referring to revelations of G-dliness that are reality in the literal sense.

It is said that the Rebbe MH"M once came back from the Ohel and greeted the Chassid Rabbi Yaakov Katz of Chicago in the entranceway to 770. "Regards from the Shver [my father-in-law, i.e., the Rebbe Rayatz]," he told him. Reb Yaakov became very agitated and kept asking, "From whom?" To which the Rebbe replied as a matter of fact, "Yes, from the Shver."

...two visions that he had experienced:

1. A teaching that he heard from the Baal Shem Tov -- when awake, not dreaming etc

From a Sicha of the Night of Simchas Torah before hakafos, 5727

In a farbrengen on the night of Shmini Atzeres 5705 (in the Sukkah) the Previous Rebbe told that about 100 years prior, in the year 5627, the Rebbe Rashab told his children that today is exactly 100 years since the Alter Rebbe saw the Baal Shem Tov while he was awake (in the year 5527, after the Baal Shem Tov had already passed away).

According to the way things were done, that the children of the Rebbeim participated in "parting from the Sukkah", so too the Rebbe Maharash went with his children -- the Rebbe Rashab along with his brothers and sisters -- and "parted from the Sukkah" with a cup of tea and some cake, and at this time he spoke about the matter mentioned above and told the following story:

On Sukkos 5527, when the Alter Rebbe was serving as the shammes for the Maggid, the Maggid sat in the Sukkah and the Alter Rebbe entered after him. The Maggid said to him: lock the door so that no one can enter, and don't become excited but rather internalize this and let it sink in -- the Rebbe is coming!

--Then they saw the Baal Shem Tov while they were awake, seven years after his passing!
From this we see the great level of a shammes, that davka through this the Alter Rebbe merited to see the Baal Shem Tov while he was awake seven years after his passing.[...]

YaakovNathan wrote:

Isaac wrote:There is a rosh yeshiva in Eretz Yisrael who has seen the Rebbe. From a very esteemed family. I spoke with him once.

Can you tell us who is this person?

Isaac wrote:There is a rosh yeshiva in Eretz Yisrael who has seen the Rebbe. From a very esteemed family. I spoke with him once.

I don't know if I would believe every story you hear, but I can vouch for this Rov.

On the one hand it's pretty amazing, on the other hand it's only because we're in such a deep golus that we would be amazed!

YaakovNathan wrote:

YaakovNathan wrote:

Isaac wrote:There is a rosh yeshiva in Eretz Yisrael who has seen the Rebbe. From a very esteemed family. I spoke with him once.

Can you tell us who is this person?

Is he quoted on this "seeingtherebbe" blog?

http://seeingtherebbe.wordpress.com/200 ... ana-biton/


The wife of Rabbi Yaakov Biton, the shliach of the Rebbe in Sarcelles, France, periodically organizes groups of women to travel to “Beis Moshiach” 770 in New York. The prefered date is generally the Chof Beit (22nd of) Shevat, the yahrtzeit of the Rabbanit, the tzadkanit Chaya Mushka, of blessed memory, the wife of the Rebbe.

“This was in the year 5763 (2003) that I brought a group of women from my city to 770 in honor of Chof Beit Shevat. My sister-in-law, Mazal-Tov Ben-Sabo, also came along. She is a frum woman who grew up with emunat tzaddikim (faith in tzaddikim, which is the reason she came along with us) . For her this was the first time she was ever by the Rebbe.

“We arrived on Thursday, the 20th of Shevat, in the afternoon. After we got organized a bit, we went to sit in 770 for a shiur by one of the women in the neighborhood who was explaining very clearly the uniqueness of 770, “Beis Moshiach”, and she emphasized the eternal life of the Rebbe, neshoma in a body.

“Her talk mentioned the “shvil” (pathway) that opens up among the masses of people who fill 770 before and after the davening at the Rebbe’s minyan. The Chassidim stand on two sides and sing “Yechi” to greet the Rebbe with song and melody. After the shiur my sister-in-law opened up to me with a lot of anger, complaining that she didn’t want to hear such things. She had already heard about the emunah of the chassidim that the Rebbe is alive, but to her the “shivl” that was spoken about was just too much.

“She said such insulting things that it’s not right to repeat them, and my attempts to explain it didn’t help.

“Despite everything, she arrived with us to 770 for Kabbalat Shabbat the next night. She purposely sat in the first seat, opposite the Rebbe’s place.

“A few minutes before the davening she saw how they prepared the Rebbe’s shtender, since it was customary for the Rebbe to daven for the amud on this day in honor of his wife, the Rabbanit Chaya Mushka. Again she started to ridicule and insult the idea and I wasn’t able to stop her. A few minutes went by and the “shvil” opened up for the Rebbe with the singing of “Yechi”, meanwhile my sister-in-law was looking around below in the men’s section of the shul.

“The davening began, when suddenly I saw the face of my sister-in-law had changed and turned as white as plaster. She continued to look like she had been struck by shock, and after a moment she opened up to me with tears in her eyes, and she said “I’m in shock! You won’t believe it but just now I saw the Rebbe!

“I calmed her down, and she told me that just then she had seen the Rebbe passing through the “shvil” that had opened up for him, with his siddur in his holy hand, and he got to the Aron Kodesh and touched the parochet. After this she wasn’t able to see anything more.

“Needless to say, this revelation changed her whole outlook and she made the most out of the rest of her visit!”