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It's awfully quiet in here at a time like this...

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It's awfully quiet in here at a time like this...

Postby Reuven Chaim on Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:15 pm

Hasn't there been any messages by the children, the autistic or mekubalim at this terrible time?

Why is everyone in here so quiet?
Isn't this exactly what precedes Geula?
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Re: It's awfully quiet in here at a time like this...

Postby BarDaas on Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:54 am

Reuven Chaim wrote:Hasn't there been any messages by the children, the autistic or mekubalim at this terrible time?

Why is everyone in here so quiet?
Isn't this exactly what precedes Geula?

Check out Rav Dahan's latest shiur for parsha Vayechi (around 35:00) where he gives a kabbalah explanation that this year, which leads into 5770, is the year we go to "Netzach", meaning Geulah.

If you remember, already in 2005 when his shiurim were being posted on one of the earlier forums he was already saying that the geulah would come in 5769. I didn't want to believe it then, but now that 5769 is "Moshiach Now" I can tolerate it!!


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Re: It's awfully quiet in here at a time like this...

Postby shloime on Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:04 pm

BarDaas wrote:
Reuven Chaim wrote:Hasn't there been any messages by the children, the autistic or mekubalim at this terrible time?

Why is everyone in here so quiet?
Isn't this exactly what precedes Geula?

Check out Rav Dahan's latest shiur for parsha Vayechi (around 35:00) where he gives a kabbalah explanation that this year, which leads into 5770, is the year we go to "Netzach", meaning Geulah.

If you remember, already in 2005 when his shiurim were being posted on one of the earlier forums he was already saying that the geulah would come in 5769. I didn't want to believe it then, but now that 5769 is "Moshiach Now" I can tolerate it!!


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http://www.zshare.net/audio/53786180e09c4c73/




could you post what he said in 2005 about this year?
could you write what he is saying now?
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Re: It's awfully quiet in here at a time like this...

Postby Reuven Chaim on Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:12 pm

BarDaas wrote:
Reuven Chaim wrote:Hasn't there been any messages by the children, the autistic or mekubalim at this terrible time?

Why is everyone in here so quiet?
Isn't this exactly what precedes Geula?

Check out Rav Dahan's latest shiur for parsha Vayechi (around 35:00) where he gives a kabbalah explanation that this year, which leads into 5770, is the year we go to "Netzach", meaning Geulah.

If you remember, already in 2005 when his shiurim were being posted on one of the earlier forums he was already saying that the geulah would come in 5769. I didn't want to believe it then, but now that 5769 is "Moshiach Now" I can tolerate it!!


(Turn off images in your browser before you go to the site)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/53786180e09c4c73/


Unfortunately we don't understand Hebrew :(

Can you post a summary in English or maybe someone can be kind enough to translate it for us?

Many thanks!
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Postby YaakovNathan on Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:01 am

I gave a listen. He seems to be reading from a sefer (but I didn't hear the name).

It correlates the years with the sefiros.

We are in the year 5769

There are 7 millenia to the world, corresponding to Chesed, Gevurah, etc.
We are in the 6th millenia, which corresponds to YESOD.

There are 10 centuries in every millenia, corresponding to the sefiros from Chochma, Bina, etc. We are in the 8th century of this millenia (from 5700), which corresponds to YESOD.

There are ten decades in every century, corresponding, etc. We are about to enter the 8th decade (5770) which corresponds to YESOD.

YESOD in YESOD in YESOD.

He says (based on this sefer?) that this coming year which we will enter is the year of "bila hamaves lanetzach" ("death will be swallowed forever").

He said: "5770. This year, the end of the year 5769, Netzach (eternality) will be revealed."


As for what he said about 5769, I remember when it was posted by "Daniel" on the old forum, and you can see the old posts here (http://haravdahan.info/english-copy.htm):

Parshat Bechukotai Iyar 19/MAY 28, 2005
So now I will write this that you should know that until recently this Rav spoke about the geulah and about Moshiach in a distant timeframe. Once he mentioned the year: 5769 (another 4 years from now). But it would seem that something changed his mind after the Hilula of the Rashbi (L'ag B'Omer), and in the last lecture he said that Moshiach should come within the coming year

Parshat Noach Nov. 2/06 - Personal Conversation
And then the Gemara says, "point of departure of the seventh, meaning 5769, Ben David arrives, and Moshiach is revealed.

In fact, we are returning to the original date the Rav said when reports from his shiur were transcribed in the LeDavid forum. At some point though, he changed his mind after the Hillula of Rashbi, zs'l, and there was a good probability that Moshiach would arrive 5766. But, as we see, we have not merited the redemption.

I asked him if 5769 is the last era for Moshiach's arrival and he said that he's almost positive this is the last one. Let's hope we don't have to wait till then...

Parshat Toldot 4 Kislev/Nov. 25
Esav is the secret of Angel of Death. The letters Shin and Ayin is in the word TESHA - 9, and this will be the year of the Geula, 5769, and the year prior, 5768, will be a year of great commotions.

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Postby shloime on Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:45 pm

YaakovNathan wrote:I gave a listen. He seems to be reading from a sefer (but I didn't hear the name).

It correlates the years with the sefiros.

We are in the year 5769

There are 7 millenia to the world, corresponding to Chesed, Gevurah, etc.
We are in the 6th millenia, which corresponds to YESOD.

There are 10 centuries in every millenia, corresponding to the sefiros from Chochma, Bina, etc. We are in the 8th century of this millenia (from 5700), which corresponds to YESOD.

There are ten decades in every century, corresponding, etc. We are about to enter the 8th decade (5770) which corresponds to YESOD.

YESOD in YESOD in YESOD.

He says (based on this sefer?) that this coming year which we will enter is the year of "bila hamaves lanetzach" ("death will be swallowed forever").

He said: "5770. This year, the end of the year 5769, Netzach (eternality) will be revealed."


As for what he said about 5769, I remember when it was posted by "Daniel" on the old forum, and you can see the old posts here (http://haravdahan.info/english-copy.htm):

Parshat Bechukotai Iyar 19/MAY 28, 2005
So now I will write this that you should know that until recently this Rav spoke about the geulah and about Moshiach in a distant timeframe. Once he mentioned the year: 5769 (another 4 years from now). But it would seem that something changed his mind after the Hilula of the Rashbi (L'ag B'Omer), and in the last lecture he said that Moshiach should come within the coming year

Parshat Noach Nov. 2/06 - Personal Conversation
And then the Gemara says, "point of departure of the seventh, meaning 5769, Ben David arrives, and Moshiach is revealed.

In fact, we are returning to the original date the Rav said when reports from his shiur were transcribed in the LeDavid forum. At some point though, he changed his mind after the Hillula of Rashbi, zs'l, and there was a good probability that Moshiach would arrive 5766. But, as we see, we have not merited the redemption.

I asked him if 5769 is the last era for Moshiach's arrival and he said that he's almost positive this is the last one. Let's hope we don't have to wait till then...

Parshat Toldot 4 Kislev/Nov. 25
Esav is the secret of Angel of Death. The letters Shin and Ayin is in the word TESHA - 9, and this will be the year of the Geula, 5769, and the year prior, 5768, will be a year of great commotions.




number "8" is yesod? he brings that from another book?
and after yesod comes netzach???
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Postby yehuda on Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:03 pm

Shloime and YN, didn't the Rav say: yesod that's in yesod that's in netzach ? :roll:
or, netzach of yesod of yesod ? :roll:
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Postby yehuda on Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:14 pm

5770 netzach be-netzach be-yesod [min 37:28]

chochma will murder the snake, death [min 38]
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Postby YaakovNathan on Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:31 am

yehuda wrote:Shloime and YN, didn't the Rav say: yesod that's in yesod that's in netzach ?
or, netzach of yesod of yesod ?

Thanks. I guess it serves me right for trying to translate it at 1 in the morning. :oops:

But as Shloime pointed out, 770 is already in Hod, so I think R' Dahan's point was that 5769 (this year) is the last year of Netzach sh'b Netzach sh'b'Yesod.

Whatever the kabbalistic basis might be, he was talking about 5769 a few years ago. I can live with it :D
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Why is it so quiet here.

Postby Jean-Marie Rondeau on Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:14 am

Reuven Chaim asks why it is so quiet here.

I think it is because we are all observing the dramatic show Hashem is putting before us all in these last few months.

So many drastic changes are taking place around the world.

Like whats up next is the present every day it seems.

The end of the economic power of liberal societies, as predicted by the autists ,seems more and more real each day.

What is the role of Barack Obama in Hashem's present plan is a big question mark for many. The war in Gaza also raises the hire of all nations, it seems, against Israel.

The earth is trembling in Japan, Alaska, Oregon and Yellowstone.
That alone makes it a little scary for the United States. And the BANKS!

It certainly seems true: it is redemption time!

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