Moshiach and Geulah

Talmud says that borders of Israel are 400 parsa by 400 parsa. Parsa is approximately 4,500 meters or 2.8 miles. That means Israel is 1,800 km from North to South and 1,800 km from East to West. Modern state of Israel is a tiny fraction of an ancient Israel, by the way maps of which were recently found by archaeologists in Turkey.

Let's start off this topic and take it from here. Above is a heading of something shocking and fascinating that was recently mentioned in another forum by Nazir Elkanah Eliav who lives in Jerusalem. I will translate more as I get time, but for now, let's hear some comments.

Reuven Chaim

So interesting. In Rabbi Weinkrantz zichron lebracha class, someone raised the question of how would all the yehudim be able to live in tiny Israel. His answer was that Hashem can do anything- he will make eretz yisrael bigger since He can do anything.

The Mediterranean island of Cyprus is part of Eretz Yisrae!http://www.britam.org/Questions/QuesLand.html

It's also been said that all the land will lie flat at the End of Days and the only mountain in the world will be the one Yerushalayim sits upon. When all the hilly land is stretched out, the whole place will be much larger.

Zekharya 14:10. "The whole earth shall be changed to be like a plain, from the hill of Rimmon in the south of Jerusalem; but it [Jerusalem] will be elevated high and remain in its old place;...."

Continuing from lectures with Nazir Elkanah Eliav

Israel's northern border is the river Dan in honor of the tribe of Dan who lived there. Actually, it's correct to say Don - because in this case, vocalization kamatz is read as "o". River Don, which flows from the "abandoned" sea, in Hebrew to leave, to abandon - "Azov" - leaves the boundaries of the holy land, in other words, the upper limit of ancient Israel was the Don River, which flows from the "abandoned" sea, Azov Sea.

Next come the Golan Heights, which is modern Dombay and Teberda - North Caucusus. Caspian Sea - Lake Kineret, which really does look like a violin, "Kinor" in Hebrew. Our sages of blessed memory called Lake Kineret a sea and described trade routes of ships in it, which hardly can be said about today's "Kineret". The town of Derbent - this is the real biblical Tveriya, fortified walls of which impressed and amazed everyone who was there. These walls "Homot" reach Kineret and there is no trace of such fortifications in the city which is today called "Tveriya". Furthermore Talmud says that in the north of Tveriya there are natural hot springs and they are in the north of Derbent in Kayakent. Besides ancient Tveriya was rich with vineyards, and olive trees did not grow around it.

Georgia or Gruziya as it must be correctly pronounced, for example, is named in honor of the mountain "Grezim" The Georgians themselves call their land Iberia from the Hebrew word "Ivri" or "Ever" - Avraham's great grandfather. Chechnya, North Ossetia and Dagestan - are all parts of ancient Galilee. Azerbaijan, Turkey, Armenia - region Gilead. There is a Turkish city called Tushba or Tishbi - where Eliyahu haNavi was from. He is also called Eliyahu a-Tishbi, Eliyahu a-Gilyadi. This topic is very, very big and I can further delve into it, but we do not have enough pages.

Just wanted to lift a veil a little to those unhappy ones that build absurd theories and fictions about how the Jews were in the Caucasus. And these imaginary and false "historians" do not have any archaeological or cuneiform evidence confirming their false theories. We first and foremost have our Torah and statements of our sages, moreover every modern archeologist - Egyptologist will be able to confirm to you authentic borders of ancient kingdom of Israel, that stretched from Yemen in the south to the Don River in the north, from the Nile River in the west to India in the east.

More to follow as I get time to translate...

Can you give us a link to articles by Nazir Eliav.

These posts come from a russian jewish forum juhuro.com. The only way to present them here is by translating, unless someone here understands Russian.

Continuing the conversation....

Admin of the forum asked a question about location of biblical Jerusalem based on what was written by Nazir Elkanah Eliav. Below is the reply to that.

Talmud says "She mi naar Dan ad Yerushalayim 15 yom alicha" - yom alicha here means 12 hours. It doesn't mean what a person must pass or capable of, it simply means if he walked nonstop to Jerusalem, he would have reached Jerusalem in 12 x 15 = 180 hours. If we count that a person can walk approximately 5 km per hour, then 180 x 5 = 900 km in a straight line. meaning aerial line (by looking at the map). This is usually how our sages calculated distances between 2 points.

In Micha a-Navi it says, "Yerushalayim arim saviv la", and chazal said the following about it: haarim asher svivot Yerushalayim gvuim, in other words mountains around Jerusalem were very tall and Jerusalem itself was on the hills - gvaot, and mount Moriya was taller than others. And from Moriya you could see 3 bodies of water. Anyone who attentively studies the Talmud, can confirm and locate where this is written.

Yarden River flows out from Lake Kineret and reaches the Sea of Salt "Yam a-Melach", I explain: our sages Salt Sea also called Salt Desert. In many places of Tanach, Talmud and Midrashim, desert is called Sea or Yam. In Persia there is a Great Salt Desert- the largest in the world, and because of its size our sages called it Yam a-Melach. By the way, Persia is from a nation "Prizi" that lived in Knaan. For example, there also was a nation in Knaan "Girgashi" - this is the modern Kyrgyzstan - "kirgizi"

More to follow....

I am surprised no one has commented yet... but continuing translating fascinating words of Rav Nazir Elkanah
These posts by the way are from 7 months back, I just traced them back after Nazir appeared on front page of the site when he was interviewed by admin of the site in Manhattan in May of this year. Translation of the interview will follow B'H.

Shalom Aleichem dear brothers.

Today I would like to clarify a bit about the Khazar Kaganate.
1. Khazar - from the Hebrew word "returned". Returned - can only be called a person or group of people who left a particular place and then returned back to the same place. Or a man who abandoned religion of his ancestors and then with God's help, repented/returned - he is said to be - Khazar be teshuva.
2. In our Jewish sources Khazar Kaganate is mentioned in the book Kuzari, written by a Rabbi Yehuda HaLevi roughly between 1075 and 1147 CE. The author lived in Spain under Arab rule.
3. Khazar Kaganate is mentioned as a large hostile state among the nations of the world. Especially for Slavs from the north and Arabs from the south. By the way, just as today the State of Israel mentioned almost every day as a hostile entity for the Europeans from the north and Arabs from the south.
4. All kinds of historians and scribes have created a lot of incredible stories and "sucked from a finger" theories emerged about Khazars' territory being there, that is, off the coast of the Caspian Sea and the Volga River.

They did not suddenly appear from nowhere, they lived on their native land - on the shores of Lake Kinneret and the Yarden River. At some point, a few dedicated and extremely wealthy sons of Israel have created a small country with the involvement of mercenaries mainly from the Far East, in order to protect their borders and restore a mighty kingdom that the Jews, because of our sins, G-d forgive us, have lost. The world was a big chaos: the fall of Persia, Arab Expansion, nomadic raids of the Far East and their allied troops. Therefore, some representatives of our people have decided that it was time to take advantage of the chaos and try to put an end to this long and painful Galut.

But they did not fully understand the clear and very profound recommendations given by our Torah regarding the conditions of Final Redemption, and the idea certainly bore utopian character. By the way, such attempts in our history were not few, but the Khazars and David Alroy went farther than anyone. The latter one was even called Mashiach and his kingdom lasted for nearly a year, but unfortunately it all ended very badly.

Not all inhabitants of the Khazar Kaganate practiced Judaism, but only the sons of Israel - the supreme economic and political structure of Kaganate. Тhe rest of the Kaganate followed the law of Tushav Aretz of Non-Israel descent.



comments are welcomed and more to follow.