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Cause and effect?

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Cause and effect?

Postby Moshe Meir on Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:48 am

1.- California legalizes "marriage" between people of the same sex. Many flock to city halls to have such a "ceremony".

2.- About a week later, a heat wave together with a rare, widespread series of dry ligtning storms ignites more than 800 fires in Northern California.

Cause and effect? Not for us to say, but at least we should be thinking "HMMMM........."
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Postby odisraelchai on Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:50 pm

This incident shows why it's important to move to Israel if your position allows you to, lest we be taken away with the sinning nations. Too bad not all Jews are able to move to Israel all at once , but I believe Hashem will save us from these lands and protect us as plague rages on.
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Postby Isaac on Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:18 pm

odisraelchai wrote:This incident shows why it's important to move to Israel if your position allows you to, lest we be taken away with the sinning nations. Too bad not all Jews are able to move to Israel all at once , but I believe Hashem will save us from these lands and protect us as plague rages on.

You don't have to "believe" because it's written explicitly in the meforashim (commentators) on the neviim (prophets). Look it up.
A neshoma descends to this world world for 70-80 years, to do a material favor for a Jew and especially a spiritual favor. (Baal Shem Tov, brought in Hayom Yom)
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Postby odisraelchai on Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:49 pm

"Therefore, behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when they shall no longer say, 'As the LORD lives who brought up the people of Israel out of the land of Egypt,' 8but 'As the LORD lives who brought up and led the offspring of the house of Israel out of the north country and out of all the countries where he had driven them.' Then they shall dwell in their own land."

As is known, there are many passages in Tanakh stating Israel will be freed from exile all over the world. This is a quote from Jeremiah 23:7-8 The Gaon explicitly states that Moshiach is in the north, and the main drawing of the ingathering of the exiles will come from the north, the same place ruled by Samael. As states in Joel 2, "I will drive the northerner far from you."

20"I will remove the northerner far from you,
and drive him into a parched and desolate land,
his vanguard into the eastern sea,
and his rear guard into the western sea;
the stench and foul smell of him will rise,
for he has done great things.
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