Moshiach and Geulah

yehuda · by **yehuda** on Tue May 26, 2009 1:57 am

the lubavitcher rebbe who, is the moses of this generation, has already told us that we'll be safe. If you have a problem with that i suggest that you either do teshuva or swallow your anti-anxiety pills :lol:

Devorah · by **Devorah** on Tue May 26, 2009 6:10 am

But you all have to admit that on R"H Sivan.... things began to deteriorate even more..... Korea with its nuclear bomb right on the dot of R"H Sivan. Nava doesn't make stuff up, if she writes it, she believes it, and we have to take it seriously.

stanley · by **stanley** on Tue May 26, 2009 8:48 am

Reuters) - North Korea, condemned by the U.N. Security Council for its nuclear test the previous day, looked set to further ratchet up tension with a report on Tuesday that it would launch more short-range missiles.

The nuclear test, which North Korea said was a success and made advances in explosive power, drew a sharp rebuke from regional powers. U.S. President Barack Obama said the North's nuclear arms program was a threat to international security.

In response, North Korea said Obama's administration remained hostile and that it was prepared for any attack by the United States.

"Our army and people are fully ready for battle ... against any reckless U.S. attempt for a pre-emptive attack," the North's KCNA news agency said.

In an unanimous statement adopted just hours after Monday's nuclear blast, the Security Council decided to start work immediately on a new resolution, condemning Monday's test as a "clear violation" of a previous resolution banning such tests in 2006.

"The members of the Security Council have decided to start work immediately on a Security Council resolution on this matter," said the nonbinding statement read after a closed-door meeting by Russian U.N. Ambassador Vitaly Churkin.

The North fired off three short-range missiles from its east coast missiles bases on Monday.

The Yonhap news agency quoted an unnamed South Korean official as saying it was likely to launch more, this time from its west coast, either on Tuesday of Wednesday.

"North Korea declared a ban for ships in the sea off its South Pyongan province between the 25th to 27th (of May). It looks like it will fire a short-range missile between today and tomorrow," it quoted the official as saying.

In Seoul, financial markets recovered from an initial shock

emuna57 · by **emuna57** on Tue May 26, 2009 2:31 pm

Excerpt from the Rebbe's Ma'amer (teaching) , Titled 'Behold I will bring them' taught in 1968

"Behold I will bring them from the lands of the north , and I will gather them from the scattered parts of the globe , the blind the lame the pregnant and the one who gave birth - a great congregation shall return here (Jeremiah 31:7). The meaning of this prophecy is in parallel to the prophecy of "And on that day will blow the great shofar and the lost ones from the land of Asher will come as well as those pushed away who are in egypt and will bow down to G-d in the holy mountain in Jerusalem (Isaiah 27:13)

.....the sound of the great shofar will arouse everyone....

Those in the land of the north and Asher = who are caught up in wealth and worldly pleasure.

Those who are in egypt and scattered = who are caught in physical or economic distress.

the blind = those who cannot see spiritual truths.

the lame = those whose actions are imperfect.

the pregnant = those who are ruled by emotion.

the one who gave birth = those who are ruled by intellect.

All of the above will be aroused by the great shofar that will blow.

"This means that for those that were not spiritually affected by any event , even the revelation of the messiah (exact wording)...the sound of the great shofar will arouse everyone to return to Jerusalem"

yehuda · by **yehuda** on Wed May 27, 2009 10:11 am

The Year Moshiach is Revealed

Published: Elul 5768/Sept. 2008

...

A War with Iran—Should We be Concerned?

As regards a response to threats of war, the Rebbe completely ignored the concept of danger and threat and repeated countless times that the Jewish people would enjoy special Divine protection. The Rebbe stated boldly that although the enemies of Israel plan their evil, “they have no substance, and they will not succeed in doing this, since ‘the guardian of Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps’” (Appendix II: #8, Bo). The Rebbe pointed out that the Yalkut Shimoni twice tells the Jewish people “do not be afraid”, thus emphasizing the underlying security we should have in Hashem at this time. Some excerpts:

· “The Jewish people have the special promise of the Holy One ‘my children don’t be afraid, all that I have done I did only for your sake.’[…]It is clear that ‘the guardian of Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps’
in every place in the world where Jews are found, also outside of Eretz Yisrael.” (#7 Va’era)

· “[…]these events didn’t harm the Jewish people at all, for they are the pupil of the eye of the Holy One, ‘one who harms you it is as if he harms the pupil of His eye’[…]especially including the Jewish people who dwell in our Holy Land[…]” (#8 Bo)

· “Before the geulah the Jewish people dwell with security without fear from the fact that ‘the nations of the world are distressed and panicked’ because ‘the rulers of the nations of the world struggle with one another’, since the Holy One says to them (Israel), ‘My children, don’t be afraid, all that I have done I only did for you…’ (and it is repeated) ‘don’t be afraid, the time for your redemption has arrived’, ‘The King Moshiach…stands on the roof of the Beis Hamikdash and he announces by Israel and says humble ones, the time of your redemption has arrived.’” (#9 Yisro)

· “The Holy One says to Israel ‘My children, don’t be afraid (‘you should not take it to heart’) all that I did I did only for your sake, the time of your redemption has arrived’, namely, that the Holy One Himself is involved with the redemption of Israel.” (#17 Ki Seitze)

In fact, it is precisely when the Jews trust Hashem and do not fear (as we are instructed by Hashem in the Yalkut Shimoni), and instead Jews “add in their Divine Service in learning Torah and fulfilling its mitzvos[…]this automatically causes stability in the entire world, in all the 70 nations of the world.” (#6 Toldos) It was this special protection, as promised in the Yalkut Shimoni, which enabled Israel to survive the Scud attacks of the Gulf War with what even the military experts called a “miraculous” minimum of casualties.

What is left to do?

To bring about this revelation of Moshiach is our responsibility. Let each one of us double and redouble our commitment to doing everything in our power to bring about the revelation of Moshiach—both in our personal lives, and our “professional” lives, and let us commit to encouraging those we know to do the same. We need to awaken within ourselves the latent yearning for the Moshiach and the “new world” that he will usher us into. This is the awakening from below that itself will enable him to redeem us. The Rebbe told us how to do this, and the key points are:

· Pushing our boundaries by taking on new mitzvos and doing them in the finest manner (hiddur mitzvah);

· Learning and teaching others about the subject of Moshiach and Geulah, especially as explained with the insights of Chassidus;

· Increasing the size and the frequency of giving tzedaka;

· Excelling in Ahavas Yisroel: the love of our fellow Jews for no other reason than because they’re a Jew;

· Informing gentiles of the Seven Noahide Laws which G-d Almighty commanded all nations of the word to observe;

· “Living with Moshiach”, so that we view every event in our lives as a part of the process of redemption, fueling our desire for the ultimate redemption rather than merely a more comfortable exile.

The sages tell us that Moshiach experiences terrible suffering until he is able to reveal himself to all of Israel[4]: can we really excuse ourselves for making Moshiach suffer for even another minute?

Together, we can bring about the culmination of the Yalkut Shimoni--Moshiach Now in actuality!

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[1] Note the Rebbe’s statements that “The appointing of David, King Moshiach has already taken place[…]The only thing that is necessary is the acceptance of his kingship by the people." (Mishpatim 5751); “Moshiach himself is literally present, existing now in the world.” (Vayera 5752); "We find ourselves already in 'the days of Moshiach.' We only need to open our eyes." (20 Kislev, 5752).

[2] “Od lachazon mo’ed” is a verse from Chavakuk 2:3. On these words Rashi comments: "In the future, at the end of years, a prophet will arise who will reveal a vision as to when the time of the fall of Bavel and the redemption of Israel will happen."

[3] See Rabbi Y.Y. Jacobson’s article: http://www.meaningfullife.com/currentev ... _Basra.php

[4] “…there are those who claim [in accordance with the 12th of the Rambam’s 13 principles of faith]—‘I await him every day’, and as regards [the rest of the 12th principle] ‘that he will come’, this is Moshiach’s business, and they are relying on him that he will come when he wants! What does this mean?! Moshiach wants what every Jew wants—that the geulah will come immediately! And if the geulah doesn’t come, the verse says ‘he bore our illnesses, and our pains-he carried them, etc, and he was pained because of our transgressions, crushed because of our iniquities’, and as it says in the Gemara that Moshiach ‘sits among the poor who suffer ailments,’ meaning that the entire time that Moshiach doesn’t come in a revealed way in this world—he is a sick man, and he undergoes dreadful sufferings every moment, r”l! If so, how do they dare to say that Moshiach and every Jew can wait a while until Moshiach will come?” (Sicha of the Rebbe, Ekev 5744)

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Devorah · by **Devorah** on Wed May 27, 2009 10:41 pm

We all know what the Rebbe said.
But the Rebbe is no longer here on earth (and I don't want to start up that argument again... please)
The Rebbe's words applied to that period in time, and hopefully still apply now, but we do not know for sure. I admire your faith, but we have to look and see what is happening, not live in a dream world.
If the Rebbe was here, perhaps he would be saying something different for this time, things can change.
But we all hope that the Rebbe's advice from 20 years ago is still current today.

yehuda · by **yehuda** on Wed May 27, 2009 11:31 pm

Devorah, it is a Torah principle that a Torah's positive prediction as well as a novi's positive prophecy are eternal and immutable. The opposite is true for a negative prophecy or decree. And, the Rebbe was able to see until the geulah and beyond.

What is left to do?

To bring about this revelation of Moshiach is our responsibility. Let each one of us double and redouble our commitment to doing everything in our power to bring about the revelation of Moshiach—both in our personal lives, and our “professional” lives, and let us commit to encouraging those we know to do the same. We need to awaken within ourselves the latent yearning for the Moshiach and the “new world” that he will usher us into. This is the awakening from below that itself will enable him to redeem us. The Rebbe told us how to do this, and the key points are:

· Pushing our boundaries by taking on new mitzvos and doing them in the finest manner (hiddur mitzvah);

· Learning and teaching others about the subject of Moshiach and Geulah, especially as explained with the insights of Chassidus;

· Increasing the size and the frequency of giving tzedaka;

· Excelling in Ahavas Yisroel: the love of our fellow Jews for no other reason than because they’re a Jew;

· Informing gentiles of the Seven Noahide Laws which G-d Almighty commanded all nations of the word to observe;

· “Living with Moshiach”, so that we view every event in our lives as a part of the process of redemption, fueling our desire for the ultimate redemption rather than merely a more comfortable exile.

The sages tell us that Moshiach experiences terrible suffering until he is able to reveal himself to all of Israel[4]: can we really excuse ourselves for making Moshiach suffer for even another minute?

Together, we can bring about the culmination of the Yalkut Shimoni--Moshiach Now in actuality!

[4] “…there are those who claim [in accordance with the 12th of the Rambam’s 13 principles of faith]—‘I await him every day’, and as regards [the rest of the 12th principle] ‘that he will come’, this is Moshiach’s business, and they are relying on him that he will come when he wants! What does this mean?! Moshiach wants what every Jew wants—that the geulah will come immediately! And if the geulah doesn’t come, the verse says ‘he bore our illnesses, and our pains-he carried them, etc, and he was pained because of our transgressions, crushed because of our iniquities’, and as it says in the Gemara that Moshiach ‘sits among the poor who suffer ailments,’ meaning that the entire time that Moshiach doesn’t come in a revealed way in this world—he is a sick man, and he undergoes dreadful sufferings every moment, r”l! If so, how do they dare to say that Moshiach and every Jew can wait a while until Moshiach will come?” (Sicha of the Rebbe, Ekev 5744)

www.yiddishkeit.org

Devorah · by **Devorah** on Wed May 27, 2009 11:45 pm

it is a Torah principle that a Torah's positive prediction as well as a novi's positive prophecy are eternal and immutable

Amen!

yehuda · by **yehuda** on Thu May 28, 2009 12:33 am

the prediction of a positive event, since once a Divine promise of good is communicated through a prophet it is never retracted; however, if the prophet warns, in the name of G-d, that a calamity is destined to befall, and it does not occur, this does not disprove his prophecy, since a decree of evil can be removed through prayer and repentance.

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/84902/jewish/What-is-Prophecy.htm

The words of the Rebbe were literally nevua (prophecy), which were literally fulfilled

http://mysticalpaths.blogspot.com/2008/05/bad-name-of-moshiach.html

:wink:

Isaac · by **Isaac** on Thu May 28, 2009 12:37 am

Devorah wrote:We all know what the Rebbe said.
But the Rebbe is no longer here on earth (and I don't want to start up that argument again... please)
The Rebbe's words applied to that period in time, and hopefully still apply now, but we do not know for sure. I admire your faith, but we have to look and see what is happening, not live in a dream world.
If the Rebbe was here, perhaps he would be saying something different for this time, things can change.
But we all hope that the Rebbe's advice from 20 years ago is still current today.

The Rebbe said about his father in law (the Previous Rebbe) that all the brochas he gave before Yud Shevat are just as guaranteed to be fulfilled as after Yud Shevat.

Dream world is the world of golus, where Jews concern themselves with what the goyim are plotting. In the very beginning of Tehillim it says that Hashem laughs at all their plots, so why would a Jew spend his time becoming "boki" (expert) in the various schemes of the nations of the world? We have to realize that this is a dream world and the real world is what Hashem says and his prophets say. The Rebbe was a prophet, and he said the prophecy is that "l'alter l'geulah"--immediately to geulah.

I suggest you (and everyone) review the Rebbe's sichos from 5751-52 ('nun-alef nun-beis') and then you won't have to admire someone's faith but you'll have it yourself.

By the way in today's Rambam sefer hamitzvos is the mitzvah that we must believe the words of a prophet and if we don't then the punishment is death from heaven! (Maybe this explains the terrible fears of certain people about what's going to happen.)

If all these people with armageddon fears would be able to open their eyes that there's a novi and that his words are emes and that the geulah is "al yadei Moshiach Tzidkeinu" which means you have to believe in and be connected with Moshiach, then their fears would disappear and they could greet Moshiach with a smile!

Devorah · by **Devorah** on Thu May 28, 2009 1:59 am

The very fact that the world is thinking WW3 shows us that we must be in the days of Moshiach. Even if it doesnt happen, people think its going to happen and they do teshuva.

Isaac · by **Isaac** on Thu May 28, 2009 6:27 am

Devorah wrote:The very fact that the world is thinking WW3 shows us that we must be in the days of Moshiach. Even if it doesnt happen, people think its going to happen and they do teshuva.

The fear of WW3 was much more in the 1950s when American schoolkids were taught to "duck and cover" under their desks when the Russkies dropped the H-bomb and their parents were building bomb-shelters.

And the Cuban missile crisis was much more intense that what we have so far.

The idea of Moshiach is that Jews have no fear of the world because like the king Hezkiyahu they trust in Hashem completely.

I understand people are on different levels, but people should know that if they are shouting "Last Chance!" "Run for your lives!" then they are among those with less the the best BITACHON in the G-d of Israel (aka the Eybershter).

Hashem sends a Novi to prepare the people before Moshiach comes.
The Rebbe is that novi. He said so OUTRIGHT. There has been no replacement. If someone thinks we're "on our own" then I guess we see what sort of fears will come upon him. But if someone thinks like the Rebbe who said about his father in law after Yud Shvat that he wouldn't leave his chassidim to fight Amalek alone, then this someone knows that we are not alone, the Rebbe is still working with us and guiding us, fulfilling his Divine shlichus like Hashem wants, and there is nothing to fear only work to do.

Smile and help a Yid to trust Hashem!

yehuda · by **yehuda** on Thu May 28, 2009 7:30 am

"Fortunate are those who trust in Him," (Tehillim 2:12) for these people are constantly witnessing His Divine supervision.

(Shaarei Kedushah)

Yossi · by **Yossi** on Thu May 28, 2009 7:40 am

Isaac wrote:
I understand people are on different levels, but people should know that if they are shouting "Last Chance!" "Run for your lives!" then they are among those with less the the best BITACHON in the G-d of Israel (aka the Eybershter).

Smile and help a Yid to trust Hashem!

So well said.

gadshalom · by **gadshalom** on Thu May 28, 2009 7:53 am

ya but how does one know for sure which side is right?

Moshiach and Geulah

"Tzadik Nistar" says flee USA by Sivan 5769

shoot more missle BEFORE SHAVUOT 5769

Dont worry!! The Torah prophets tell us we will all make it!

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